Surprise-Cast!

Episode 78 – After promising never to return Mark and Rob prove themselves to be the dirty liars they are and are indeed back!

In this special ‘reunion’ episode we dust off the mics to discuss the fallout from #macracangate from our previous final episode.

We then ‘go there’ and ask are our chills multiplying over the imminent return of Doctor Who?

We continue our look at the newsworthy year of 1990 from the lens of DWB. topics discussed include: the Gerry Davis / Terry Nation bid to produce our favourite series, the trauma of the same photo appearing on DWM and TV Zone, the exciting news of the extended Curse of Fenric on VHS and finally, we pore over the results of the DWB reader poll, which to be honest include some bat-sh*t crazy outcomes!

42 to Doomsday will return at Xmas!

DWM vs TV Zone

 

 

 

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Duplicate Doctor Who prints in Australia – A response

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Mark and I appreciate all the commentary and interest regarding the Macra Terror 3 film can interview and photographs.

We understand that there are questions about the film can, particularly over the label and our own motivations.  We would like to address them here.

Some have questioned why the label looks new.  The answer is that both previous owners, known personally to Mark and I, stored the can in a way that ensured that it didn’t age while in their hands.  The previous owner kept it in storage for the duration, while the current owner stores the can in a cabinet out of direct sunlight.

Indeed, as an example of the conditions the previous owner stores items, we attach a photo of a Target book from 1974 which forms part of their personal collection.  As you can see, it has been stored in excellent condition over the intervening 44 years and looks brand new.  The film can was stored under the same conditions.

As mentioned before the current owner of the film can, and the immediate previous owner, are both known to Mark and I.  These relationships go back at least 20 years.  Both are sober, intelligent people who don’t engage in wild flights of fantasy.  If they say the film can and the information taped to it are legitimate, then we believe them.

Unlike the ‘burger van’ hoax or the ‘Barrett’  Shibaden tape supposedly containing TP4 and other innumerable hoaxes, Mark and I have been upfront about who we are and have provided photos to support what we believe to be true.  We agree it would be preferable the can had the usual BBC or ABC sticker(s), but we believe that the can itself, based on the logo used and advice we have received about the logo, itself dates back to the 1970s.  Part of the reason we went public with the film can was to facilitate discussion about the belief many have that duplicate prints circulated around Australia.

Aside from the film can and its label, there have been attacks on our credibility. Phil Morris claimed to have contacted the ABC who he alleges said the can was a ‘fake’. We have contacted Morris via Twitter offering the can to representatives of the ABC for examination but so far he has chosen not to respond, as he is entitled to do.

We stand by our credibility.  We have been involved in fandom since the late 1980 and 1990’s.  Within fandom, through our podcast, we are public figures, not faceless keyboard warriors trolling fellow fans.  It’s well-known that Rob played a hand in returning the Power of the Daleks clips from Australia in the mid-1990s.  Once he had the information, he contacted the BBC, in the shape of Steve Roberts, to allow the speedy return of the clips to their proper place at the BBC.  This is all documented on what remains of the Restoration Team’s website.  His intent then, and now, was purely to assist in the recovery, and deepen the understanding, of the fate of missing Doctor Who episodes.

We would have not proceeded with the interview and published images of the can if we felt it was a forgery and furthermore we certainly did not do this as a ’clickbait’ exercise, but only to share our findings with Doctor Who fandom.  Our podcast has finished-it’s a pretty strange way to drum up more listeners when there are no more episodes being made!

Again, we appreciate all the considered comments that have been made since the interview and photos were made available.  We certainly understand the well-argued skepticism some have voiced.  But, we stand by the information as presented and hope it provides the beginnings of a clearer understanding of how prints were handled and moved around Australia.

Stay tuned!

Rob and Mark

 

 

The Final End?

Episode 77 – Time is called on Australia’s longest running and (in)consistent podcast! It is the moment all our fans (but particularly our enemies) have waited for!

Before 42 to Doomsday ride’s off into the distance we strap on the mics one last time to bury Moffat, not once, but twice!

We dig through the entrails of early 1990’s DWBs delusions, plus listeners feedback where we take down the whole Patreon Industrial-Military complex in a no hold’s barred suicide run and thenwax poetic as we sink slowly into the sunset!

But wait! Who is that *other* voice on the podcast? Could it be…Lord Melbourne?! And what does he bring with him? Could it be…not one, but two cans?

But the question you all really want answered……….will 42 to Doomsday return ?

 

 

 

 

Duplicate Doctor Who prints in Australia – Is this proof?

What we have discovered is a film can of an episode of The Macra Terror. As you can see from the photos we have provided exclusively anywhere for the first time, this can is marked as a DUP.

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The current holder of the film can, who we have chosen to dub ‘Lord Melbourne’ to help mask his identity, purchased it from a collector in the last decade or so. We have spoken with this previous owner, who has provided his recollections of acquiring the can.

‘I bought the collection of 78 discs sometime around 1997.

Although there is no doubt the lot of cans originated from the BBC, the collector I got it from didn’t get it directly from there. They bought them from an auction house in Camberwell (a suburb of Melbourne) in the late 70’s / early 80’s – they couldn’t remember exactly when. There were two pallets of films for sale, and the family I got them from bought one of the pallets.

The price they paid for a pallet of film seemed ridiculously cheap! I think it was either $20 or $50 the lot. They were bought for the film cans to be used as 78 shellac record storage, as the 10″ tins were exactly the right size to store them. There was only a handful of the larger cans in the lot I saw, and they were empty – no records, and no film. All the films had gone to the dump, even the ones in the larger cans that weren’t used to house 78’s. These were thrown out because they were to heavy to carry with the films in!

I don’t remember anything else of particular interest being in the collection, I do remember there being either a surfing documentary, or a Bells Beach documentary being on the label of one of the cans. I remember this because I had found films before that were surfing related, and thought the odds were against finding any others again!

I didn’t really think it was that important as it was an empty can, and wasn’t even BBC, and only had a written label on. I did write to whoever was in charge of BBC archives at the time – I think Adam Lee, but never got a reply.’

It is unknown whether other film cans marked Doctor Who were purchased as part of this lot from the ABC. We believe that the print of The Macra Terror 3 has been disposed of and is now lost forever.

But what it does provide, we believe, is proof positive that, based on the information contained on the can, that yes, the ABC struck multiple prints of at least one story (and likely many others) to ship around Australia. We do know that around 130 episodes were returned to the BBC from Australia in 1975. But if multiple prints were struck, and only one set each were sent back to the BBC, then it is a possibility that others may still exist here in Australia, if not on the hands of the ABC, then in the hands of film collectors.

Our other item, which has provenance from Bonham’s, appears to be model shots on film from The Colony in Space. Being ultra careful, the owner has never viewed the print, so we are unsure if the model shots appear on the DVD release.

 

 

 

The Omni-Rumourist – Part Two!

Episode 76 – Even though the moment has been prepared for, it isn’t quite the end of 42 to Doomsday! We rip of the coffin lid and clamber out for this, our second last episode!

We’ve brought back one of our most popular guests, Dave Hoskin, to discuss the progress of his book ‘Chasing Shadows’ on Phil Morris and his search for missing #DoctorWho episodes and his impact on fandom.

All that plus we talk about our plans for our ‘cross our heart and hope to die ‘final’ monthly episode!

 

 

 

 

Staff Xmas Party – Part Trois!

Episode 75 – Rob and Mark are joined by Richard and Dave to help us ‘celebrate’ our very last Christmas special! We attempt to rehabilitate Eric Saward’s contribution to the show, examine arcs in their classic and modern contexts (warning: Rob doesn’t mince words), wax lyrical about ye olde novelisations in The Target book session, go deep into our favourite shows of the year and our hope and dreams for Series 11!

But more importantly who will be the recipient of this years ‘fanwank of the year’ award?

Apologies for the sound quality, Mark forgot to press the correct button again!

Hang in there, folks. Only one more to go…

 

 

 

Top 5 U.N.I.T Stories!

Episode 74 – Mark and Rob are joined by 42 to Doomsday stalwart and friend of the podcast, Rob Lloyd as we all dive deep into the top secret dossier stamped ‘Top 5 U.N.I.T stories!

Listen to us wax lyrical about our favorite military organisation, the highs and lows and which do we prefer United Nations Intelligence Taskforce or Unified Intelligence Taskforce?

Plus listen in as we gasp at the new Doctor’s new clothes, shake our heads mournfully at the Children in Need clip, talk cheap desks and burble happily over Rob’s new book!

As the podcast careens to its fiery demise in January, get in before we shut up shop – FOREVER!

 

 

 

Episode 73 – We are back and in this episode we set the way back machine back to 1989 where the nuclear apocalypse never looked so distant after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the screening of the final episode of Doctor Who!

Come back with us as we dig through the printed archives of the enfant terrible of Doctor Who fanzines, DWB, and the more gracious letter pages of Australia’s own Sonic Screwdriver!

Laugh along at the antics of Coast to Coast, ponder Donald Sutherland’s scarf, hand out pink slips in the Doctor Who Production Office and get deep into the trenches of the hate-fest that was (and indeed remains) the Melbourne-Sydney fan wars of the 80s!

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All this plus listen as Mark draws (very) tenuous links to Frankie Goes To Hollywood and Peter Howell and listen to the very end for a slice of DAAS nostalgia who ask if Kyle and Jason may or may not be Freemasons?

Episode 72 – Directors are the heroes of Doctor Who and we pay homage to (some) of them as we go through our choices of Top 5 directors!

Which ones do we leave on the cutting room and which ones do we think should have their own star on the Doctor Who walk of fame.

All this plus 30 years of Time and the Rani and our thoughts on the the new, new First Doctor!

Nothing Compares 2 Who!

Episode 71 – The 42 to Doomsday Love In has begun! After the bile and bitterness of the last month, we at 42TDD reached out to our listeners, asking them to express their love for the show.

So join Mark and Rob as we go through our listener’s feedback about why they fell in love with Doctor Who and have maintained their commitment all these years!